Philadelphia Eagles Draft: Initial Thoughts on What to do With Pick No. 4 | Eagles Addict

The Philadelphia Eagles hold the No. 4 pick in the 2013 NFL draft.  This is our reward for suffering through such a crappy season in 2012.  It also makes the draft that much more exciting and fun to discuss their options with a pick that high.

This is the highest they have drafted since 1999, when they selected Donovan McNabb at the No. 2 spot.  Unfortunately, there are no quarterbacks coming out in this draft that scream “franchise player” and are legitimately worthy of the No. 4 pick.

However, that doesn’t mean Chip Kelly won’t take one at that spot because quarterbacks are almost always over-drafted in the NFL due to the simple rules of supply and demand.  Very little supply, very much demand.

In general, this draft doesn’t have the buzz about it that some other drafts have had.  That’s mostly because of the lack of skill players being projected to go in the top 10.  As of right now, most draftniks do not have any players at QB, RB or WR ranked in their top 10 in terms of overall best player.

The top 10 is filled with offensive and defensive lineman (including OLB edge-rushers) and maybe a lone cornerback.  While finding blue-chip players along the lines is extremely important, they aren’t particularly “exciting” picks to the general public.

However, I am all for getting a stud lineman.  If Andy Reid ever taught you anything besides bad play calling and use of timeouts, he always maintained that the games are won and lost in the trenches.

Though he was never especially adept at drafting linemen, his theory was correct.

Linemen and quarterbacks are not the only positions worthy of a high draft pick though.  A stud defensive back is certainly worthy if they’re good enough.  I don’t think anyone would argue with drafting someone like Patrick Peterson, Darrelle Revis or a stud safety at pick No. 4, right?

The Eagles have numerous needs, most notably at safety, cornerback and offensive line.  We could also argue that a nose tackle — or someone capable of playing that position if and when needed – is now a need considering the switch to a 3-4 or a “4-3 under” alignment.

Heading into free agency and the draft, I would rank the Eagles’ top five needs in this order: S, OL, CB, NT, QB

Even though I have QB ranked as fifth on the “need list”, if there was one worthy of pick No. 4 and it came down to selecting that position or someone at one of the other positions, the QB would trump all others just because of how difficult it is to find a franchise quarterback.

It’s all about value to me.  If the value is the same, then I’d use position to break the tie.

So, what should the Eagles do with their pick?

Take the best available player?  Take the best guy there at a position of need?  Trade back to acquire more picks to fill holes?

That’s a tough question and one that will be debated from now until April.  I have the mindset that you don’t get to pick this high too often (or at least you shouldn’t), so use it to grab someone who appears to be a surefire stud for the next decade.

However, we have a new regime in place with new schemes and plenty of holes to fill so if the right deal came along, trading back could be a good move.

**Quick noteI have not extensively researched players yet so the following is merely based on things I’ve “picked up” just in routine reading.  As we move along, I will be researching individual players to get a better idea of what we either should or will do.

The players that the Eagles will most likely will be looking at, based on needs and projected “worthiness” of a top five pick are OT Luke Joeckel, OT Eric Fisher, DT Star Lotulelei, CB Dee Milliner, OG Chance Warmack, DE Damontre Moore, OLB Jarvis Jones, DE Bjoern Werner and QB Geno Smith.

Since No. 4 is simply way too early for me to consider a guard, Warmack is scratched off the list first.   Next off the list is Smith, at this point I just don’t see it.  After researching him some, he reminds me of Jason Campbell a little bit.

Milliner seems like a good, solid player and would fill a huge need, but everything I’ve read about him so far doesn’t make him seem as if he’s talented enough to warrant the No. 4 pick.  He’s close, for sure, and I don’t think anybody would look at the Eagles cross-eyed if they chose him there.

However, there are several other good corners in the draft that we could get in the second round and beyond.

I see Fisher somewhat the same way.  His stock was raised after a good week at the Senior Bowl and now he’s being mentioned in the same breath as Joeckel.  Fisher seems good, but not necessarily No. 4 good.

If we assume that Kelly and new DC Bill Davis plan to use Brandon Graham, Trent Cole and Vinny Curry, I don’t think we’ll be looking at Jones, Werner or Moore at the No. 4 spot.

That leaves me with Joeckel and Lotulelei.  Both guys are the highest rated at their respective position and are legitimately considered top five in the talent department.  Both would also fill big needs.

Luke Joeckel

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My only problem with taking an offensive tackle is that, when you use a pick that high on one, you want him to play the premier position along the line…left tackle.  Perhaps the biggest question the Eagles will need an answer to prior to the draft is what they think of Jason Peters’ recovery.

Will Peters return to normal?  He’s a phenomenal left tackle, but that was two Achilles ruptures ago.  Tough, tough question in regards to how he projects in 2013.

It’s possible the Eagles could put Joeckel at right tackle and move Herremans back to guard, but we’ll be playing guys out of their position.  Sometimes that doesn’t work so well.

The Eagles currently do not have anyone on the roster that I’m overly confident about playing a NT position.  Mike Patterson and Antonio Dixon are the candidates, but I think we need to find someone to fill this role…an important role at that.

Therefore, right now, this is what I would do…

If Luke Joeckel is there at No. 4, take him and don’t look back.  He’s probably as close to a sure thing you’ll ever get.  You just take a franchise tackle and let him be a cornerstone of your line for at least the next 10 years.

If Joeckel isn’t there, but Lotulelei is, then take him.  I don’t think he’s as big of a sure thing as Joeckel, but he has tremendous potential to be a huge cog in the defensive line…ala, Haloti Ngata…for the next 10 years as well.

star lotulelei

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If neither Lotulelei or Joeckel are there, then we trade back and pick up an extra second round pick (at least).  If we traded back, our list of targets would significantly increase, depending on what slot we traded back to.

However, my top two players I think would be most interesting in a trade back scenario are QB Ryan Nassib and safety Kenny Vaccaro.  Both players could be had between 10 and 15…as of projections right now.

My thoughts and opinions will certainly change as I start researching players more and, of course, the combine results come in.  This was the quick and dirty of my thoughts at this time and I’m certainly looking forward to some good discussion and debate about what to do.

What do you think we should do with the No. 4 pick?


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11 Responses to Philadelphia Eagles Draft: Initial Thoughts on What to do With Pick No. 4

  1. InsultComicDog (@InsultComicDog) says:

    Regardless of what you call him, a left OLB or a SAM, the Eagles don’t have a good one, and they need one to execute this defense properly, more than they need any other front 7 position. They can get away with using Patterson/Landri as the nose tackle in this particular one-gap type of 3-4, a lot better than they can get away with Jamar Chaney or Akeem Jordan or that ilk.

    They need secondary help, obviously, even more so, but not with the 4th pick of this particular draft.

    I don’t mind drafting one of the top O-tackles but if Peters is ready to return, that draftee is going to play elsewhere on the line for now.

    • I think in the Eagles’ new defense, Ryans and Kendricks would be the inside LBs and Cole/Graham would be considered the OLBs. Davis’ 4-3 under D has some hybrid alignments though and the role of Cole\Graham\Curry will be something he calls “predator” and “ghost”. The thing is whether or not they view those guys as being able to drop back in coverage at times in order to keep the defense unpredictable.

  2. xxLouA says:

    this is second time I had to type this but will agree that OL is big issue but so is DL and safety psn. they only have one top pick, I suppose they should try and get what they could with it. top guy would be best. Don’t know why you put the dogman against Foles or why Lurie wants to throw away his money. He can throw some my way and that would be fine. MV didn’t belong here in first place.

    • If Vick is the starter again, I’ll be surprised…and pissed. Hopefully he’s released next month and we move on.

      • Reddy says:

        i agree with you on this, vick was given too many chances and eagles need to move on with new foles or new qb’s.

    • Mike says:

      I tend to agree about the whole scenario. The one thing I would add is that trading back and drafting Warmack would be my best plan if the Te’o big dogs aren’t there. I thing you can’t go back beyond #8 or 9 to do that

      • Warmack would be interesting in a trade-back scenario, we do have his OL coach now so there’s that. But, I still feel odd about taking a guard high…I’d prefer a tackle. You still want Te’o after all that crazy stuff, not to mention his poor performance in the championship? I think he’s going to go late in te first round, maybe even slip to the 2nd.

  3. Bob says:

    I think they could possibly use the tackles they currently have to play 1 gap at NT (Wade Phillips-style) and put off drafting a 2 gapper this year if they had to. Then they could get that OT and use the 2nd/3rd rounds on CB and S. Not sure what their plans are for the D line though….
    This is going to be a fun draft and off season.

    • I can agree with that Bob, which is why I’d take Joeckel over Lotulelei. But, if Joeckel is gone but Lotulelei is there, it might be hard to pass on him at that spot…unless they get a good offer to trade back. Joeckel is the only one at this point I’m 100% sold on taking if he’s there.

  4. Fábio Campos says:

    Hey Dave, great first look at the Draft

    I hope Joeckel or Lotulelei be there when the Eagles are selecting (but think unlikely). In case neither be there anymore, I think Fisher may have value.

    I love Peters but honestly I think it very difficult He plays at a high level again. Achilles ruptures is no simple thing. Especially for someone with 31 years and 328 lbs.
    The chance of re-injury it is high (again, 328 lbs). he’s making almost 11 million this year. (I think a lot of risk pay this amount in his situation). It´s sad to say this, but I think it’s time to let him go.
    or try to restructure the contract with a low base salary and bonus for production and games per season (but I think he would not accept).

    if not any of those 3 players, we have to trade down. Try to stick with two selections from the middle to the end of the 1st round (and take a S, maybe Vaccaro, anda a CB, Trufant or Rhodes). signs Jairus Byrd in the F.A and we have a great secundary here with Boykin.

    Nice read man

    • Thanks Fabio. The decision on Peters is going to be huge. He probably won’t be the same player he once was, but a slightly degraded Peters is still better than a lot of linemen out there. If Joeckel could play the right side to start, we can see how Peters does. If he does well enough, we’d suddenly have a pretty good OL with Peters and Joeckel at the tackle positions, then hopefully Herremans can play yet another position along the line at RG making our OL be Peters – Mathis – Kelce – Herremans – Joeckel.

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