If Andy Reid is Fired, Should the Eagles Rebuild or Maximize Current Roster? | Eagles Addict

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The notion that Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid will be fired at the end of this season is gaining momentum.  Barring a miraculous turnaround, that’s exactly what will happen come January.

Assuming that’s the case, the next question will obviously be: Who’s our next head coach?

The two hot names out there right now being mentioned as potential replacements are Sean Payton and Jon Gruden.  Payton, however, will most likely return to the Saints once they get a new deal hammered out.

Gruden is a distinct possibility and is a decent candidate.  However, this is where Jeff Lurie is going to have to make a certain kind of decision first, before hiring anyone.

Lurie will need to decide if he wants to bring in a new coach to rebuild the roster, just like Reid did in 1999, or if he wants to bring in a veteran head coach who can maximize the talent already in place.

Jon Gruden is the latter.  He is not the guy to bring in if you are interested in blowing this team up and starting over from scratch.  However, he is the guy to bring in if you want to make another run with the bulk of the current team.

It’s an interesting dilemma that Lurie will face.  Is the talent on the current roster really that bad?  Or are they being misused by the coaching staff?  Are the players failing because of a depleted and stressful atmosphere that seems to be surrounding the team?  Or are they simply overrated?

I think it’s a combination of all that.

Many people think when Reid goes, Vick will go with him and this team will get blown up with the exception of a few core players.  If we were to bring in someone like Gruden, I think he’d likely stick with Vick and try to reshape the offense so that it better suits his skill set.

That’s what he did in Oakland and Tampa Bay.  Gruden took the Raiders to the Super Bowl after bringing in veteran journeyman QB Rich Gannon, then won it a couple of years later while with Tampa Bay and having the vastly mediocre Brad Johnson at QB.

Gruden prefers veteran players and does not have a history of developing young talent.

With that said, he did mention Nick Foles recently when he was asked who he thought would be the next rookie QB to emerge.  Courtesy of Tim McManus over at Birds 24/7 (from Sam Farmer of the L. A. Times), here is what Gruden said about Foles just a few days ago:

I had Nick Foles in the preseason against New England. Michael Vick got hurt on the fifth or sixth play, and Foles went the distance, on the road in Foxborough. If you like prototype pocket passers with some functional mobility and a tremendous amount of toughness, Foles is interesting.

What really impressed me in the preseason was they weren’t running generic formations. They ran about 30 different formations out of about eight different personnel groupings in successive plays. So I see him recognizing coverages. I see him getting to second and third receivers, just like you’d want a quarterback to do in that system, and I love his NFL size.

He reminds me a lot of Brad Johnson, from his football character to his ability to decipher a lot quickly, and we won a championship with Brad.

I find it quite interesting that Gruden mentioned Foles in this capacity.  It could be just a coincidence, but it could also be Gruden’s way of letting Lurie and Howie Roseman know that he likes Foles and therefore would be willing work with him.

However, given his penchant for veteran players, he may still prefer Vick or even cut him and bring in another veteran QB to run the offense (instead of Foles).

In any case, my point is that if we were to bring in Jon Gruden, it would be with the mindset that we’d be making a championship run in 2013.  No rebuilding, no new young QB to build a team around for the next decade, and no 5-year plan.

Gruden is a coach who will want to — and be expected to — win immediately.  That’s the lure of hiring a guy like him, because he’s been successful in that regard.  However, he’s not the guy that will set your team up for the long haul.

On the flip side is bringing in a promising young coaching prospect that has never held an NFL head coaching position before.  He would likely try to do as Reid did and rebuild the team over the course of a couple years.

The idea with this kind of coach would be to clean house and start fresh.  Vick would be gone.  The philosophies of Howard Mudd and Jim Washburn would be gone (although they’ll be gone regardless).

There would be a good chunk of players let go and replaced with a new mix of veterans and rookies.  Any player with a reputation of a “me player” would be gone.

He would likely go with a young quarterback to try and build around.  He would bring in new schemes and fresh ideas.  He would earn the players’ respect and have them believing.  He would have a 5-year plan and be given most of that time to bring it to fruition.

And most importantly, this kind of coach would not be expected to win immediately.  The expectation would be to install a new winning atmosphere, show improvement and set this team up to be a contender for years.

Both ways have its pros and cons.  On one hand, I like the excitement of building a new team that is “up and coming” and gets into a position to be a legitimate challenger for years.  Having a young QB that looks to be a stud for the next decade is one of the best feelings for a franchise.

On the other hand, we have some good players to make a run with right now as long as we add a key piece here and there and have coaches who know how to use them better.

There are risk factors for both ways as well.  A new coach could misjudge the talent of a young QB.  A veteran coach could make the wrong decision on a veteran QB.  Both could end in disaster and set a franchise back for years.

What could be a highly influential deciding factor is where the Eagles pick in the draft.  If they continue at their current rate, we will be looking at a top-10 pick, possibly top 5.

If that’s the case, do you bring in a guy who will draft our next hopeful franchise QB and build around them?  Or if we pick in a slot where we can’t get that kind of QB, do we then just decide to go with a veteran coach and stick with Vick?

What say you, huh?

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3 Responses to If Andy Reid is Fired, Should the Eagles Rebuild or Maximize Current Roster?

  1. Smokes says:

    No doubt Reid will be gone by next season. I, like you and numerous other Eagle fans, would LOVE to no end if Gruden came and lit a fire under these player’s butts.

    I don’t really think we need a new young coach with a new system for a couple reasons. One, we have tried a couple new coaches (i.e. McDermott, Castillo, some could argue for this year Washburn and Mudd) with different systems recently and they haven’t really worked out (at least long-term). And two, we have so much talent on this team already that just isn’t utilized correctly that it would be a darn shame to let it go to start afresh.

    Sad thing is Gruden has stated numerous times in the past that he enjoys his job at ESPN and has no intention of going back to coaching. Now I don’t really know if he means it or not, but we can’t put too much faith in him coming to Philly. But boy, if we COULD find a veteran coach out there somewhere…

    • I haven’t quite made up my mind yet about which direction I’d want to go in as far as head coach. I like the aspect of bring in a veteran coach to maximize the current talent on the roster, but if it’s a guy like Gruden or some other previous head coach that has won a Super Bowl, stats say that it’s highly unlikely that a coach can win a Super Bowl with 2 different teams.

      I might be up for giving someone like Josh McDaniels a shot. He’s a great offensive coordinator and was humbled in KC. He could be like Belichick in that his first go-around as a HC was a tremendous failure, but his second stint more successful.

      Bringing in an unknown guy with no prior head coaching experience is a huge risk too. If we went that route, we’re talking about a complete rebuilding of the team. I can’t fault either line of thinking at this point. I tend to lean a little towards the “try to make a run with the current team” side, but I can see the logic in the other side as well.

      The key thing is that we don’t overrate the current talent on the roster. Maybe they’re good…maybe they’re really not as good as we like to think they are.

  2. AM says:

    I personally would love to see a 3-4 defense. Imagine Graham and Kendricks on the outside!

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